I just read it and it looks like it is all factual, so whats the problem? Big brther just doesn't want any truth that maybe against their organization out there. Too bad it wasn't still the middle ages.
William Penwell
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WTF? Tried Jehovahs Witnesses to delete Raymond from Wikipeda a couple minutes ago?
by Dold Agenda ini was just googling jehovas and this appears in the list at wikipedia abou raymond franz.. *theinformationon this page was removed by responsible members of the legal coorporation of jehovah's witnesses,watchtower bible and tract society of new york,inc for the sole purpose that this page spread false information about a former member of jehovah's witnesses.the authors of the page are liable and did not remain neutral with regards to the information presented.we request you write a written apology to us..
wtf!?.
apperently that didint work out.. (cur | prev)17:32, 29 january 2013 titodutta(talk | contribs) m.
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Newbies: Any Feedback on the "New Light" Regarding GB?
by daringhart13 inthe newbies are pooring in....... curious.......can any of you new folks confirm the sentiment of the publishers regarding the new light that the governing body is the faithful and discreet slave?
has anyone even noticed??
what's the word on the street?.
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William Penwell
I was not around in 1914 but was there in 1975 and seen the hype build up before 1975 that the new system was to come before that year. They now deny that but as someone that lived through it I can say they did point to 1975 as a marked year. Yet the RF dub, even those that lived through it say that was not true. The RF dub will buy any spin the WTBTS puts on anything.
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Sickening Dilemma
by ItsMyLife ini would like to have your opinions on what i should do about a situation please.. i have recently discovered that a 'brother' in the congregation (which i no longer attend) is a child molester.
i've seen documentation from his psychiatrist dated a few years ago, stating that he doesn't feel that this person is likely to offend again.
the 'brother' has said to the elders at some point that he has it under control but cannot be 100% sure it won't happen again.
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Sounds like the elders are again giving professional advice that they have no business doing that in the first place. Be very careful how you approach this as you are between a rock and a hard place on this one and are opening yourself up to libel action.
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Relationships & JW's
by Kool Jo ingood day:.
just a query....how did growing up a jw impact your views of relationships, in terms of love/marriage?.
were you too gullible, naive?.
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Relationship advice from the GB and my parents was all wrong. Took me 50 years to get over this mind conditioning.
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Molested By a Governing Body Member Interview with Mark Palo
by BlindersOff1 inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uads9caywh4&list=uu5siqfsjttx7gijqfwo2aaa&index=15.
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William Penwell
I recall Leo Greenlees giving a talk at a district converntion and he had on a light lime green suit with white shoes on. You think he is gay?
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Still Waiting For the Governing Body To Explain Their New Light
by Cameron_Don inregarding the governing bodys new light relative to matthew 24:45-47, anointedjw.org recently said the following:.
this new light certainly poses a problem for the governing body.
perhaps this is another reason why they have not yet published a sober and scriptural xplanation of this new light.
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William Penwell
Therefore, even if we as individuals do not fully understand a certain position taken by the slave class, that is no reason for us to reject it or return to Satan's world. Instead, loyalty will move us to act humbly and wait on Jehovah to clarify matters.
Typical GB, either your for us or aganst us mentality.
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My Fathers Memorial Service
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William Penwell
I will report back to you all later.
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My Fathers Memorial Service
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William Penwell
Undercover, I've noticed the occasional JW in good standing having a memorial service at a venue other than a kingdom hall. One of my JW uncles had a memorial service at a funeral home not the local kingdom hall. At that service, even the JWs gave lovely euologies about him. This would not have happened at the kingdom hall.
A few years ago I attended a JW memorial given at the local funeral home that was refreshing. They did a 5 minute slide presentation of the deceased life and it was not all a big preach fest. The key here is it was at a funeral home. Most dubs are limited for funds and are force to use the KH, by the way that they all paid for it themselves with no help from the mother organzation but are now told by the organization how they are to run their memorial service. If I had a say in the way this would be just a private service at home. I will be doing something later after just for dad and only invite the non dubs.
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My Fathers Memorial Service
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I would prefer a private sevice with just the family members, where we can just talk about all the good memories of my dad. Not sure if this will happen as you have too many in the family that will want to stick their nose in and the next thing they will want some elder involved and it will agian just end up to be a big preach fest. I was saying to my cousin the other day that as a dub growing up in the early 70's this was not supposed to happen. We were made to believe that none of us would die but cheat deah by holding hands into a paradise world. The society never made us come to reality of death and that took me years to come to terms with. Now they are trying to cheat me out of properly grieving for my dad.
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My Fathers Memorial Service
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William Penwell
From another angle, non-JWs frequently comment about how crassly preachy Kingdom Hall memorial services are. So, if the organization thinks that memorial services are recruitment opportunities, anecdotal evidence suggests the opposite: Non-witnesses - and even those less negatively disposed towards the witnesses - find these services complete turn offs.
I agree most non-JW's see it what it is, a sleazy cheap way of trying to recruit new members. If they want to briefly mention the deceased "hope for the future' that’s fine, but again the focus should be on the deceased life. It may be acceptable to all the JW's there but when you have a number of non-JW's it just becomes a turn off and negative publicity for the JW's. If they are looking for recruits, this is not the way to do it with a hard sell approach but those dinosaurs in Brooklyn don't get it.